Name:skwirl[ Homepage ]
Location: San Francisco, CA
Country: United States
Member Since: October 21, 2006
Number of Posts: 1686
Age/Gender: 26 / M
Zodiac Sign: Aries
Status: Attached
Sexual Preference: Girls
About Me: i love life. i love the meeting of souls, whether it is two minds connecting over an idea or 10,000 dancing bodies connecting through music. i love music; there is great music in every genre... unfortunately, the same can be said for terrible music

my favorite color is yellow :-D

i am a nontheist, which is to say that i think the question of the existence of a god, while possibly meaningful, is irrelevant when it comes to how we should live our lives on this planet.
beer: deschuttes, speakeasy, anchor, lost coast, new belgium, chimay, hoegaarden, paulaner... and i have a soft spot for heineken :-D
music: fisherspooner, royksopp, the prodigy, pendulum, tiesto, james holden, armin van buuren, orbital, bt, u.s.e, iamx, the presets, imogen heap, deepforest, mike sweeney, shpongle, infected mushroom, klanguage, the knife, captain ahab, and captain tinrib.

massive attack, ulrich schnauss, robert miles, paul kalkbrenner, and boards of canada.

dave matthews, led zepplin, the doors, the long winters, nirvana, too much or too little, the postal service, alexi murdoch, jose gonzalez, and alanis morrisette.

immortal technique, j5, zion i, and tupac. that is an all inclusive list :-P
movies/tv: .
american history x
waking life
human traffic
the english patient
princess mononoke
labyrinth
dogma
crazy people
arrested development
the fifth element
ace ventura
disney's aladdin
the emperor's new groove
super troopers
star wars
babylon 5
star trek: tng & ds9
other hobbies: djing - trance, progressive, electro, techno, and drum and bass, with some live mashups of classic rock to modern hits

cycling - 2000 Trek 2300.

english premier league football (yes that is soccer) - Gunner (if that means anything to you, yes i know you hate me ;-)
tattoos: i love tattoos! you are all beautiful.

... and i just got my first! wings on my calves. pics in an album titled "My Wings" ;-)
books etc: .
siddhartha
ender's game
the mote in god's eye
ishmael, et al
the vampire chronicles
the foundation series
calvin and hobbes
philip k dick
michael crichton
lord of the rings
his dark materials
... if you havent read "Ishmael" by Daniel Quinn, do it now... youre still at your computer, i'm serious!
38 Friends
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Posted: 11/11/08 at 02:41 AM  RSS
Belated Explanation
 Thanks to for kick starting:
"i wish we could of hung out some more when i was out that way.  why didnt you make it out to the event?"

Answer:
to be honest... it was a few fold.
1. friday night.  i really tried to show everyone a good time, and despite all the places that we went, i just couldnt really get anything out of anyone.   but i mean it was the first night and everyone was still kind of warming up to everything so i kind of understood.
however
2. pretty much no one came to my party.  i mean... you were all exploring a new town, so there is a lot to do besides my party.  but still.  i posted on the DN message board.  satan, omni ,and kasara were all at a previous party (which happened to be one of my best), and all seemed excited about the next.  but not only did none of them really come (omni and kasara did, but only after changing out of their exotic erotic outfits [my party was a costume party]), but it seemed that no one really knew about it.  i mean, one random dude posting on a message board about an event is kind of random.  but i really thought satan, gwindylyn, omni, and kasara would have helped out given the success of the last party which they attended; i thought it could have been a great time for the Dn folk to have a great time together.  apparently those four didnt really care that i was hosting a pre-event for their main event. 

in the end.  i was just dissappointed by a community that i thought might have cared.  i picked that weekend because everyone was in town.  i could have just as easily not had a party and gone out.  omni, satan, and kasara seemed so excited and blown away by our last one that i thought they would be excited about another.  but there was just no... communication.

then, some of my close friends were having a housewarming party on sunday afternoon that i wanted to go to but was worried that i would be exhausted for the Dn event.  after their party, i kind of decided that the Dn crowd had shown how little they cared and i really didnt feel like going to see them on sunday night.

the nail in the coffin was that my party turned out great.  really cemented the fact that friends that i know in person are awesome and e-friends are kind of fake.  icing on that coffin-cake was satan, gwindylyn, omniphiliac, and kasara.  e-friends that turned into real friends that totally ditched me in favor of their e-friends.

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one of the only reasons that i want to stay here now is because i have kind of documented the past 2 years of my life in journals.  i want to export them all and ditch, but i dont think i can.  is $10 per month for the rest of my life enough to keep journals from two of the most life changing years of my life?  
for now it is.

(this was edited out of the response but i think i should add it here: MissD and her boy came early and then a bit later Sin and some folk showed up.  so omni and kasara werent the only ones.  in fact, people that had no idea what to expect actually came before they did.  however, they had all left by about 1030 or 11, which is about 30 minutes before anything will even start happening at a club in sf... and sin showing up was i think the catalyst for MissD to leave as i think Sin was here for a total of 10 minutes.  but again... show me anything that gets hoppin' before 11 and i will be there... unless it is top 40 hiphop crappers, in which case, you can keep all that skank for yourself)

(24 comments)
Satan  -  Hacker
 
San Rafael, CA
34 / M - Open Marriage
Posted: 11/11/08 at 05:07 AM 
I wish I could have made it. However I was hard at work preparing our party. I worked extremely hard to make that party happen. Gwindylyn and Arin worked tirelessly for months and months.We didn't stop working until the event was over and even then we were still "working" by hosting and entertainging boatloads of people from out of town. I think it's unfair to think that we don't care about you or your feelings. I hope you change your mind and I hope I am invited to your next party. I did notice you weren't at our event and it made me sad
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 12:52 AM 
 i was trying to help with the hosting.  thought you could have used some time off of the hosting for a night.
i was not expecting both you and gwindylyn to be here.  just thought i would have had some help getting the word out that i was having a great place for deviants to meet that night.
i suppose no one ever really said they were coming, so i should have expected no one.  i just thought that maybe you would have mentioned that you had been telling people about it and that no one at all was interested.

omniphiliac  -  Writer
 
San Francisco, CA
27 / M - Other
Posted: 11/11/08 at 08:28 AM 
yo, the main reason why we switched out of our costumes (well I just took off my makeup) was because they were full of sweat and funktitude from exotic erotic. I did tell a lot of people about your party. Actually, whenever anyone asked me about exotic erotic, I downplayed that and instead told them about your party. Lots of people texted me that night and asked what was up and I told every one of them about your party, even giving them an address. I did my best to get people to go to your party. It sucked that we couldn't stay long, I agree. Also and were with us. I was also bummed that you didn't come to the event. And I totally agree that friday night was...difficult, to put it diplomatically. I'd rather not see you leave DN, at all. I'm sorry if you felt that I wasn't giving you the proper respect, but I was definitely promoting your party as best I could.
Sadie  -  Model
 
San Antonio, TX
F - Single
Posted: 11/11/08 at 09:19 AM 
I was way bummed you didn't come to the event. Although I totally understand your reasons. But I had a blast with you friday night!! I was like "damn that guy is hella fun!". And was more than hoping to see more of you. I really wanted to go to your party but the people I went to the exotic erotic ball with just wanted to go back to our room. I was a sad kitty
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:18 AM 
sigh... i feel like i am just complaining now.   i havent really put the time into the site over the last few months that i could have; been too busy.  didnt really promote my party here.  so suppose it is largely my fault.  i just assumed that the people in charge would have been tooting my horn...
hey!    do you want to be in charge? 
Sadie  -  Model
 
San Antonio, TX
F - Single
Posted: 11/13/08 at 08:03 AM 
Haha oh and toot your horn? Darlin I'll do that any time
Arin  -  Model
 
San Rafael, CA
24 / F - Married
Posted: 11/11/08 at 12:03 PM 
I think it's extremely unfair to point fingers at certain people for not coming to your party.  I knew about it, I just didn't have time to come.  The DN event wasn't just something that magically happened over night, we spent months and months preparing for it and didn't stop working until the lights came on after the event was over.  So to sit there and say that you are pissed off at your "fake internet friends" because they didn't come to your party, because they were too busy making sure that an event happened is totally uncalled for.  I'm sorry people didn't come to your thing, however be mad at them...but don't sit there and be pissed off at the people who make this site happen and fun events happen for everyone.
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:10 AM 
 i pointed fingers at the people whom i thought i had some meaningful relations with.  people whom i heard nothing from all weekend.
anyone can spend a lot of time throwing an event.  my roommate throws events monthly at DNA Lounge.  he promotes tirelessly all month every month.  books acts monthly.
i felt like a number that weekend.  not a member of a community.
thank you for reading my journal.

Edited By: skwirl (tirelessly, not tireless) - 11/13/08 at 01:11 AM
Arin  -  Model
 
San Rafael, CA
24 / F - Married
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:21 AM 
I can't speak for anyone other than the people I live with.  However I still stand by the fact that I think its shitty for you to single people out and I also think its even more shitty for you to single out the people who even make this site happen.  As a person who help throw the event, and spent a lot of my donated time putting it on...I didn't get to see even half the people I wanted to see because I was busy with the event....let alone spend any time with anyone.  If your party got over looked because we were busy doing stuff for the event it wasn't intentional, it was merely because we were fucking busy making sure everything went smoothly.  As someone who knows people who throw events you have to know how hard that is.....and even more so for people who don't do this on a regular basis. 

Like I said previously if you want to be pissed, go right ahead but be pissed at the right people.  There was a shit load of people who came out here...

Thanks for coming to the event, we really appreciate the support.


Edited By: Arin - 11/13/08 at 01:24 AM
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:28 AM 
1. please don't tell me who i can and cant be angry with.  anger means i ultimately care.  if i didnt care, i would be apathetic.
2. sarcasm is a great tool when joking around.  when people are angry, sarcasm is a great tool to make people more angry.  you obviously read my journal, that ultimately makes me happy that we can disagree and try to find common ground.  i obviously didnt come to the event and you are just being mean.  that is not a trait that i enjoy.
Arin  -  Model
 
San Rafael, CA
24 / F - Married
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:32 AM 
I'm not telling you who you can or can't be angry with, I'm just saying that I think it's shitty of you to put all the blame on people who work their asses off to make sure this site runs and then to turn around and work their asses off to throw a fun event for people to come to.  They do that with their own time and their money.  And then it just sucks when someone rubs their noses in it.

I'm a sarcastic person, I won't apologize for it.
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:43 AM 
 i am a sarcastic person too, but there is a time and place for everything (granted, we might think that the time and place for sarcasm is most of the time, but not when people are pissed).
also, just because you put some time and effort into something, doesnt mean you become a blameless angel.  if you are putting that much time and effort into something, than you have to be ready to find your faults and take responsibility for them.  learning from mistakes is one of the most important things that we as people do.
if you notice my reply to Sadie above, you will notice that i do actually take blame for a part of the fact that few deviants came to my event.
however, my frustrations that weekend are not with you, and i will not back down on my frustrations solely because you feel that they are unwarranted.
i am sure satan, gwindylyn, omni, and kasara appreciated your friendship and loyalty, but sometimes you have to let people stand up for themselves (as they are doing i might add, in fact i am meeting omni this weekend to continue dialogue about some more specific things that i was hurt about that weekend besides a lack of turnout at my party, which was mostly superficial).
Gwindylyn  -  Model Liaison
 
San Rafael, CA
F - Open Marriage
Posted: 11/11/08 at 01:26 PM 
Sorry man . . . I have a kid and can't just go out and party anytime I want.  The people I have to babysit were all involved in the event.  Also, real babysitter = money I'm not swimming in.  It was hard enough getting a babysitter for Sunday night and hella expensive . . . that's the reason I didn't get to come to your other party.  Or why I don't get to come to any parties for the most part.

Plus we were still doing last minute preparations for the DN event . . . so +1 to Satan's comment.


Edited By: Gwindylyn - 11/11/08 at 02:43 PM
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 01:02 AM 
 indeed.  i was not expecting you and satan to be here, as i dont expect both of you to be at anything i do.  i was just expecting that since satan had had such a great time at my last party, that you two would have been selling my place saturday night as a great place for Dn folk to meet, especially to ease your own hosting of people that was likely going on half the week.
as i said to satan.  it seems like there was absolutely no conversation on your end with deviants or with me and it makes me wonder...
i have parties because i have fun, i like to have fun, and i like to facilitate others having fun.  i had this party to help with a weekend of hosting out of towners.  i just felt nothing in return all weekend from anyone.  no contact about anything else going on all weekend.  no contact about anyone not coming to my party.
i kind of felt like just another $10 in the door of DNA.  just another $10 on this site.

Edited By: skwirl - 11/13/08 at 01:29 AM
Gwindylyn  -  Model Liaison
 
San Rafael, CA
F - Open Marriage
Posted: 11/13/08 at 08:46 AM 
Who says I didn't sell your event?  I told everyone who wanted to have a good time and party to go to your party.  But I promoted your "event" any chance I got.

There was no other conversation on my end because I was too busy with the event and running back and forth to the airport a bazillion times.  But there wasn't any contact from you either besides a few posts here and there.  So I don't really see how I'm at fault for people not coming to your party.  That's like blaming you for people not coming to the DN event.

And you wouldn't have been the only PAYING member at DNA.
Jagged
 
Oakland, CA
39 / M - Single
Posted: 11/11/08 at 05:19 PM 
yeah.

I was there Saturday night.

You notice the nice crystal skull vodka sitting on top of your fridge? that was me.

I hung out for about half an hour and never once saw you. I watched a little Song Remains the Same. Then omni was running late, so I eventually decided not to hang out in someone's house I don't know with people I don't know.
omniphiliac  -  Writer
 
San Francisco, CA
27 / M - Other
Posted: 11/11/08 at 06:06 PM 
That was YOUR Dan Akroyd crystal skull vodka, I was admiring it when I showed up later that night
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 12:45 AM 
thank you for the vodka.  dan is the man.  i am sorry the Dn turnout was so low and that you got bored and left before you could run into me.
Mercedes  -  Model
 
Bay Area, CA
F - Single
Posted: 11/11/08 at 06:07 PM 
I couldn't get into the event,so the weekend was really confusing for me too as far as communication went.I saw a lot of people during the day,but once night fell,a lot of people had their own plans,so I just made my own.

I'm bummed I didn't make it to your party.Communication was bust with anyone I mighta known being there,and people I was with had no idea how to get there.

Moral of the story..I could use some more phone numbers!!!!!


That whole week was insane.With as many people as there were in town,there was bound to be complications and conflicts of plans.I haven't seen you in forever! I keep trying to get a Kitaro date in place,but no dice
skwirl
 
San Francisco, CA
26 / M - Attached
Posted: 11/13/08 at 12:47 AM 
 yeah.  good news is that DNA is now 18+, so future events may be better
also, my place is 110-, so hopefully you can make it to the next one.